Evidence of meeting #48 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was campaign.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
You said he was the lawyer who participated in the conference call.
As an Individual
Paul Lepsoe was the previous counsel for the Conservative Party, and he is the one we would have had conversations with.
Bloc
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
The time has expired; we're at five and half minutes already. I'll let the witness respond if they have an answer to that brief question.
As an Individual
I might add, as well, that I just met him this morning before the hearings, and that was the first time I've talked with him.
Bloc
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Ten minutes again? Thank you.
Very quickly, Madame Lavallée brought up the question a little while ago about an e-mail of December 6 from Mr. Kumpf to Mr. Miele. It says: “Perry, I've had a chance to discuss the issue with David and Ray.”
David who? Ray who?
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Fine, and then in response to this e-mail, where you had asked permission to contact the broadcast arbitrator, the answer came back and said: “Hold tight until I ask Mike in Ottawa, we may not want anyone talking to them.”
Who is Mike?
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Thank you.
We were talking about tag lines a little while ago. If you allow me, I will ask you these questions in French, because I'm a little bit more comfortable.
Initially, you said you had decided how the advertising would be placed. I will use an example that I relate to because I know the area well. It is an invoice for $36,359 made out to the Hull—Aylmer riding association, where Gilles Poirier was the candidate. There is a registered provincial tax number or a federal tax number, 1020111221TQ0001. Whom does that number belong to? Is it your company's number with Revenu Québec, the Conservative Party's number, or the tax number of the candidate or his official agent?
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Yes, it's an invoice from the riding of Hull—Aylmer. While she's showing you this...you're talking of tag lines and you're talking of areas where you've decided to show some ads. How did you arrive at choosing, for example, for a riding like Hull—Aylmer? I suppose you have connections and you looked at potential broadcasters.
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Not on being included; how did you decide on where you were going to advertise for that riding with its tag line?
As an Individual
As I said, when the potential ridings were given to me, I went to BBM reach books, which is Bureau of Broadcast Measurement, and from there was able to look up—they're based on census districts and counties—and match those versus the electoral maps to see what the whole viewing was.
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
I am going to stop you because I am going to run out of time. I would suggest that you correct your source of information, because you did the advertising for the riding of Hull—Aylmer using a tag line in Quebec City. Now, Hull—Aylmer doesn't receive Quebec City stations.
I have one final question.
As an Individual
May I add to that, please? Again, we want to be clear. We do not produce the creative. We didn't produce the tag lines.
