I look at the testimony Mr. Mulroney gave during the preliminary hearings on his lawsuit with the federal government, wherein he says—and I paraphrase, but it's from a longer context—that he “had had no dealings with Schreiber”, and now there is a suggestion that this means prior to his testimony of that date. Others would suggest, when they read it, that it meant in general, that he had had no dealings.
These were dealings. You were dealing with Mulroney and with his government on the question of Thyssen, right?