I want to say, just briefly, that I think I had highlighted the fact that we need a system, as was brought into the spending system, of determining whether it's the minister or the public servant who has made the decision about non-disclosure.
Secondly, I'm happy to hear Mr. Drapeau essentially endorse penalties, meaning that if the person's pay or bonuses are conditional on performance, then they will change their behaviour. I agree entirely, only I think there should also be penalties, not just that you don't get your bonus. Your pay will be docked. You will be suspended. You will be fired if you do not follow this law, repeatedly, on a normal scale of penalty and dismissal, as people face in many other laws that the federal government has passed for many other areas of society. We need this in the area of good government law as well.