In our case, these would be rather small numbers, if you like, because of the number of recruiting initiatives that are made. But I throw into “outside the public sector” such things as the RCMP, the military. We've had a few recruits who had just come from there. They don't qualify under the Public Service Commission Act, if you like—they're under their own act—but it's not quite the private sector.
On May 13th, 2009. See this statement in context.