I'm sorry, we're not going to get into that discussion.
When we have a point of order, members have an opportunity to intervene and give their opinions without taking more time than is absolutely necessary and being repetitive or not relevant. I think members have had an opportunity to make their points.
The arguments raised by the members are self-explanatory and reflect the facts, therefore I'm going to rule the point of order out of order.
We'll move back to Madam Freeman.
You have two and a half minutes left.