I know and I'm getting there. I'm sorry for taking a while to get there. It's just that the distinction is important because there's a necessity to do it from a process perspective for GIC appointees that does not exist for ministers, because ministers have no position of contract. The Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed this. Ministers are basically there at the complete and utter whim of the Prime Minister, so there is no expectation of procedural fairness, of reasonableness--
On November 17th, 2009. See this statement in context.