No, I understand that.
The ethics officer comes into play here, as Mr. Hiebert knows. With respect to the issue with Mr. Robert Thibault where he was sued by Mr. Mulroney, he was actually prohibited from speaking in the House. It had to do with being in that position at that time. These people were in fact public office-holders, as defined. During the time they were public office-holders they filed election expenses returns, which were ruled to be misleading or false returns by the Chief Electoral Officer.