Maybe I can start, Mrs. Simson.
I believe I'm right in thinking that only the Canadian Access to Information Act has an exclusion. Perhaps I should explain why it matters.
No one for a moment is suggesting that a cabinet exemption is not appropriate. Indeed, all statutes that I know of have such an exemption. An exclusion, however, means that the act simply does not apply to that category of records. That is the difference.
Therefore, what matters, if there's an exemption, is that the commissioners are allowed to review the records and make the same kind of decision about cabinet records as about anything else, but remembering that it would be a very clear statement that current cabinet records, for reasons that I think are self-evident, ought not to be disclosed. However, there would be somebody there with the credibility to review that determination. That is the difference.