All right. I think it's worth examining.
First of all, all members of the House are welcome to attend and sit at the table of any committee at any time, unless it's a special committee, such as the Board of Internal Economy or something like that.
The committee can agree to hear from a member who's not signed in as one of the spots. You can have ten members from a particular party here, but they cannot vote, they cannot move motions, etc.
Normally, in terms of speaking lists in committees, the practice has always been that the slots are predetermined and the permanent members or those who are signed in will indicate who's going to speak.
There's no question that the member has a right to speak, but the members have indicated that it's not with regard to the matter of the order of business we have before us. They passed a motion to move on to committee business. We are no longer there.
If the minister is going to speak further, it really has to be on committee business.
I think we understand each other.
There's another point of order from Ms. McLeod.