Okay.
Madame, thank you. I do appreciate the fact that you have done the appropriate consultations with the law clerk to get the facts straight, in terms of the civil legislation related to the service of summons and that there are criteria under which a summons would be deemed to have been served, which is part of the law, and that there may be some penalties associated with failure to accept. I think that's the thrust of your motion.
I have four people on the list.
Mr. Minister, I just want to deal with something very quickly so that we understand how the rules of the committee work when there are other members who are not permanent members of the committee or signed in as one of, say, in this case, the five members. They have rights. They're entitled to speak, provided there is no other permanent member of the committee who wishes to speak or unless the committee itself gives its consent for you to speak.
I have you on the list, but you will not be speaking in that order as long as there are other permanent members to speak. Okay?
I have to go to Mr. Poilievre first, on a point of order.