Mr. Hoback, we are on a point of order, so I can't entertain a second point of order on top of it. Just a moment.
Minister, whether you are heard at this meeting really is ultimately going to be up to the committee, as you know. We've been through this at the last meeting. The committee has to make a decision, and I would think it would be contradictory to my ruling on speaking in debate to allow you to do a point of order for the same reason. I'm going to rule your request for a point of order to be out of order.
Madame Freeman, we're going back to debate on the motion.