Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I might mention, in beginning, that I hope we can deal later with the motion I tabled with the committee, prior to this meeting being over. I gave notice at the last meeting.
On the changes to the Lobbying Act affecting MPs, basically it does get somewhat complicated. And we're all affected by that because sometimes we don't know who's a real lobbyist and who's not. So we're trying to determine in our own office what records to keep on people as they come in. So this specific question relates to that area. If it is a known lobbyist and they just happen to pick up the phone and call you for a three-minute conversation on a question, does that have to be recorded?