That, too, is one of our problems with the government's intransigence in not allowing exempt staff to come forward, because some of these things do not happen until after....
But on the other side of the issue, as I outlined to committee the other day, there are nine or ten departments from which we believe Mr. Wright might have to recuse himself. Have you discussed at length how the chief of staff to the Prime Minister, the second most powerful position in the land, can do his job if he has to recuse himself from...? It's actually ten departments. You mentioned in your opening remarks Chinese walls. Is that the way you see this? I mean, will Chinese walls prevent conflict of interest? I understand the defence contract for aircraft hasn't even been signed yet. This man has connections throughout the defence industry. In fact, he is or was a director of one of the companies that is indirectly involved.