Thank you very much.
As you know, David Eaves has testified and I think quite enjoyed his experience with the Australian 2.0 project.
You've said that open government or access to information was previously viewed to be a minor irritant and is now a responsibility. That's quite a seismic shift. I would love you to tell us a little bit more about how that happens. How do you effect that kind of culture change, and what kinds of directives, what happened that you got on with it?