It's important to understand that the litigation is not about the meaning of journalistic source programming or created material. That is not what is before the court at this point. What is before the court is my right to review the records that are the subject of an access request where CBC alleges that section 68.1 should be applied. So it is about the right of independent review by my office of these records, to determine whether the institution has applied the exclusion appropriately. That's the subject of the litigation right now.
As to other jurisdictions, I asked my team to look at what's going on in Britain with the BBC. There was also litigation in the BBC. The definition is a little different over there. But that information is excluded from the purview of the act as well. It's different in the U.K. There's the Information Commissioner and there's an information tribunal, which has the right to review everything de novo. That same issue was before the court, the information tribunal, in the U.K. The information tribunal determined that it had the right of review and that the Information Commissioner had the right of review. I believe this is the case, but I'm not strong on that point. We could make sure that what I'm saying is accurate and provide that to the committee. I have asked my staff to review the matter.