Mr. Chair, on the point of order that was raised, I believe it's the responsibility of the chair to accept those points of order, but I'm going to make use of my time judiciously.
I want to thank Mr. Giorno for appearing before our committee today, for showing that his knowledge is very well founded in access to information and privacy legislation. He has been very clear in his answers and has provided clarity to the discussion taking place here today. Also, I appreciate his personal convictions to ensure that not only the act as it stands today under the Federal Accountability Act but also the spirit of the act is respected by ministers. So I do appreciate that.
I also want to congratulate him for his role in being diligent in ensuring that he trains staff, goes over those rules, and explains to them their fiduciary duty in providing access to information on behalf of Canadians. I think that's a very important role, and I do want to congratulate him for taking that on.
As we know, you're not only the chief of staff to the Prime Minister, but you described your involvement as a lawyer in access to information legislation and that you were previously employed at the provincial level as well. So I wonder whether you'd be able to have any discussion on any personal experiences you might have had to deal with in the past with political interference in trying to obtain access to information.