That's based on the government operations committee. If we accepted the first seven-minute round of the Conservatives, it would be Conservative, New Democrat, Conservative, Liberal at seven minutes each. That would allow more time for people to speak. I would take your first position.
I think in the second round at five minutes we have to ensure there is a chance for the Liberals. My Liberal colleague is new here. I don't think it's fair to push the Liberals off for their second round, because there is follow-up. I would support the Conservative first if we went with the New Democrat option for number two.