One of the witnesses I thought was very good when he came before committee was Howard Bernstein. He said:
The CBC is a web of internal empires, where everyone controls his own money. ... It's hard for the president to tell other people what to do, because there are so many separations in there and there's so little general accounting. The accounting seems to cover only one's own unit. How you present the money you spend is indecipherable, even to the bosses.
How would you respond? This is somebody who knows the internal workings of CBC very well, and I think that's quite an indictment.