We have the need for penalties, but I'm also concerned about people who are making contact on behalf of companies. It does take two to tango. We've had senior bureaucrats who were passing these files on.
Is there some obligation when a guy like Mr. Jaffer comes calling, who hasn't bothered to register, who is lobbying on behalf of a company for major contracts, for the department to check whether he's on any list and whether that has been clarified to them? Do we need an obligation within the departments themselves?