Okay.
I'm interested, because, again, we're not talking about the people who come and fill out the forms and who are there on a weekly basis or a monthly basis, or maybe just once a year. We're talking about people who are peddling their influence.
Mr. Jaffer was not an expert in green energy, but he knew people. He knew people very well. He had been in the caucus for 10 or 13 years. He kept his MP's card. He had his wife's BlackBerry. He had access to a cabinet minister's office. So clearly it would have been in the interest of someone looking to get on the inside track to ask him to make phone calls. That's what we're trying to deal with here in terms of making sure people aren't breaking the rules.
You said this case was severe, and in your recommendations you stated the obligation to register. You had four basic issues. One was that the requests for government funding are considered to be communication in respect of “the awarding of a grant, contribution or other financial benefit”, even if the requests are not lengthy in detailed proposals.
I guess what I'm asking and thinking of here is that you have someone who's a prime insider who knows everybody, who's been buddies with people in key elements of government, and you bring him in on a project and ask him to make some phone calls that open doors.... Are you saying that if they bring in another former Conservative MP or insider and ask him to make some calls on behalf of a company, the calls themselves are what is opening the doors to the contract, not necessarily big detailed proposals? At what level do we need to be aware of this so we can flag this behaviour and decide whether or not this is actually lobbying or some kind of influence peddling?