Mr. René Leblanc (Deputy Commissioner, Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying) at the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics Committee

That is one of the difficulties with regard to the act as it stands at the moment, as is the concept of influence. The quality or quantity of influence is absolutely impossible to quantify with any precision. So we must make an interpretation and, as it now stands, the interpretation the commissioner has made is the figure of 20%.

But in the act, there is no mention of 20%.