Me too.
When you go through a program like that, you understand what your responsibilities are on a board. It can be a terrifying experience.
Could you go a little bit deeper in your thoughts about corporate board members working with paid lobbyists in firms? They come and advocate on behalf of their product, or whatever they're here particularly to do. I'm wondering if we're on a collision course where that area has to be better defined or included, etc., to ensure that corporate boards of directors, be they not-for-profit, charitable, or otherwise.... They're all included in that milieux. I just wonder if more consideration should be given to that. Can you go a little deeper on that?