Okay.
I'll give you an example. I'm on the human resources committee as well, and yesterday we had a representative who is a volunteer with the group Victims of Violence, and she made a deputation at committee. I haven't met with her, so that wouldn't be a registerable interaction, because she was at committee. But if she comes to see me personally to lobby me on a bill that's before the House, but she is a volunteer, your view is that the person should not be covered under the act, because it's different lobbying from paid lobbying.