Just to that, Mr. Andrews, I think if a public office holder or a former member or a former cabinet minister decides to go into a government relations firm or strategic communications firm, that person is absolutely bound by the five-year rule. Therefore, they will not engage in any lobbying activity. They could advise clients and they could advise internal staff as to the inner workings of government and how that works, but none of that is registerable activity, so they would still be bound by the five-year rule.
I think your question is about a lobbying firm versus a government relations firm. I think there are lots of similarities, but the distinction I make is that in a strategic communications firm that has both communications and public affairs, if a public office holder happens to be working in that firm, he or she could be doing communications or issues management work without doing lobbying work.