Okay. Going back to the conversation regarding “oral, arranged, not arranged”, you're right, there is confusion.
Since I've been involved here I've learned that if I call you then that doesn't need to be reported, even though we'll get into the conversation regarding X, Y, or Z.
I'm trying to tie this in to make a complete circle. What requirements are on the public office holder to report? I know we have to keep track of what we do, but there's nothing on us that we have to report to the commissioner so that someone can match things up. Should we look at closing that full circle and putting more onus on the public office holder to report to the commissioner so that he or she can do a check or balance?
In my mind, it's how we catch the ones who don't play by the rules. I think anyone coming before this committee and doing lobbying, as you've all said, is playing by the rules. It's the idea of catching the lobbyist who doesn't play by the rules.