The Federal Court of Appeal has already ruled unanimously on that and said that you have to prevent conflicts of interest. You don't have democratic good government if you don't. And when a lobbyist does something that causes the politician or public official to feel an obligation to return the favour because it's a gift, or it's services provided, it's fundraising or whatever, then the lobbyist has crossed the line and created a conflict of interest.
Every Supreme Court ruling, every court ruling in most developed countries in the world, says the same thing, at the UN, the OECD, all the standards: you have to prevent conflicts of interest. And rule 8 does, finally; after we spent nine years in court to finally get a Federal Court of Appeal ruling, they rejected an old interpretation of rule 8 that didn't prevent anything. It didn't prevent lobbyists from doing anything.