Thanks very much, Madam Chair, and my thanks to our witnesses here today. We've certainly seen some interesting presentations.
I'd like to go back, Mr. Chenier, to the definition of lobbying. You were just getting started on telling us a little bit about it.
Ms. Yates, you said you would support keeping the 20% rule but broaden its definition.
I would ask each of you to expand on how you would broaden that definition. Some of the witnesses talked about travel time being included in that 20%. Maybe you could address that as well.