I'll comment on that. I'll comment personally because I don't think the CBA has a developed position on all of that, although it touches on the CBA recommendation. The short answer is that there is consolidation in some jurisdictions. Ontario is one, where the integrity commissioner and the lobbyists registrar are the same person. B.C. used to have the information and privacy commissioner acting as the lobbyists registrar. That has now been separated. I think one of the provinces has the registrar of commercial registrations being responsible for lobbyists. So that's possible.
With respect to the specifics here, it's important to remember that many of the witnesses you've heard are consultant lobbyists. As far as I know, the committee has not heard from any in-house lobbyists, who represent 90% of the lobbyists. You have to understand that the Lobbying Act doesn't exist for lobbyists; it exists for the public. Lobbyists have a particular point of view. They have their own beefs. It's important for the committee to take lobbyists' beefs with a grain of salt.
The lobbyist who was making that particular complaint perhaps failed to realize that there are two different statutes with different rules. In fact, the code of conduct for lobbyists contains different wording from the Conflict of Interest Act. Therefore, you have the same facts and the same situation, but with different statutory wording, and you may well have different conclusions. As I said, that's something the lobbyists may not have been apprised of, or may not have been forthcoming about in presenting the beef to the committee.