I want to pursue this vein of questioning a little bit more, because I think there were some people who came here and testified that the net should be cast a little broader. There are people who come here to Ottawa to influence policy, to influence government, and to influence the decision-making process, but they don't meet the criteria because they don't meet the technical criteria of being paid. They may have their flights covered, they may have their hotels, the per diems, and their living expenses covered, but because they're not actually paid per se—how does that definition work? Is that what you're talking about?
On February 16th, 2012. See this statement in context.