I have one last question for you, Mr. Coates.
This is more for an understanding of the business of government relations. In your brief, you said that you're a government relations firm. How do you distinguish between government relations and lobbying? From what we've seen or from testimony we've heard, you can do government relations business and never actually lobby. But a former DPOH might have great influence in giving a company advice, and that will never be captured.
Do you see the need to try to capture that or the difference between government relations and lobbying?