I fully respect that, Mr. Chair. You obviously sense an element of frustration when the public could wonder that there was only an hour given to the Information Commissioner, who came before us and raised serious concerns about the black hole of accountability within ministers' offices and her role of attempting to find out information when political staffers are now considered to be exempt. We had the case, and we talked about it with Mr. Togneri and we will talk about this later on, about him sending SLAPP suits against witnesses who were asking us to do our job.
So I would think that the public who are watching, who weren't aware of what was going on in camera.... And Mr. Chair, I certainly take the role of in camera as absolutely a fundamental of our committee, but we have a job to do at this committee.
We have four key pillars, and we have four commissioners we need to hear from. Yet the public would see an appearance that we're more than willing to blow through commissioners and we're saying we don't even want to hear from them, we want to get down to other business. It sends a clear message that we have a government that is not just uncomfortable with being a majority, but they want to shut down witnesses. We're told we're not allowed to even bring witnesses to dissent and to explain.