To the point of order, Mr. Chair, this is one the problems we have with our committee. As you know and the committee knows, I have a motion very similar to this that was submitted beforehand. As we go forward with these meetings, as soon as our motions are dealt with, the government will go in camera. That's the problem we're running into.
The only time we have an opportunity to deal with our motions is when we're actually dealing with witnesses, and that's a problem we have. There doesn't seem to be any goodwill on the government side to not go in camera when it comes to these types of motions. That's the problem we tend to run into, and that's what's causing this today.
It's very disturbing when a government wants to go in camera to talk about these motions in a secretive manner.