Your question contains two aspects.
The first aspect has to do with the whole issue of means, which is key. Truth be told, the debate is no longer really about what legislation could be improved. Today, my colleagues are contributing significantly to the improvement of the law. What has been shown is that the major challenge has to do with the tools for enforcing the legislation in the government setting. An extensive debate should be held on that topic. It should be determined what the real needs of our commissioner are, so that she may fully meet the goals set by the legislation. I think that is the first issue.
Keeping in mind this legislation and the commissioner's means, we should define the indicators that will enable you to determine—every five years—whether the objectives set by parliamentarians have actually been reached. That is the key question. Can that be assessed? For instance, the former integrity commissioner sparked a major debate. One thing she was criticized for was her lack of a positive response to the expectations involved in the investigations following disclosures. That is an important debate. Parliamentarians' expectations need to be known. We need to know whether objectives can be set. We need to know what kind of investigations should be conducted and how many investigations—following disclosure—are continued or rejected.
So the whole issue of budgets should be reviewed. Money is still key. According to the OECD trend, reports were produced only on the presence of ethics and integrity measures in legislation. So saying that we have a disclosure line was enough to be well-rated. In 2005, the OECD realized that this way of doing things was deceitful and misleading. You could have a disclosure line, but only two public servants handling the calls. So there were no guaranteed results in that case.
In my opinion, the debate should focus on the tools, including punishment. I agree 100% when it comes to that. That is one of the key tools for making public office holders give these matters some thought.
I have another issue to raise, regarding another aspect.