That's what I wanted to clarify, because I've heard it said, “Well, they weren't successful so what's the problem?” But the issue is that we have a clear line about that apparent conflict, that people know what that means so that there's no ambiguity there. That's what we're trying to weed out.
I'd like to ask you—we've had so many questions going back and forth—whether or not going to your local Heart and Stroke Foundation dinner as a member of Parliament is the same as receiving a gift from a lobbyist who is trying to influence you. We are getting ourselves caught up in a morass here. Under the Lobbying Act, a public office holder is defined as “a member of the Senate or the House of Commons, or any person on the staff of such member.” Under the Conflict of Interest Act, a public officer holder is a minister of the crown, member of ministerial staff, ministerial adviser, or governor in council appointee. It doesn't seem to have the exact same definition.
Am I reading that correctly, that under the conflict of interest we're not seeing members of Parliament, although there is the Conflict of Interest Code for members of Parliament? I think all of us are trying to figure out what the difference is in our role as ordinary members of Parliament in receiving gifts, first of all from community organizations, is that under the act? Is there a distinction between how we are defined under the Lobbying Act and under the Conflict of Interest Act?