Under the Conflict of Interest Act, as I understand it, with the exceptions of ministers, ministers of state, and parliamentary secretaries, they're considered to be reporting officers under the Conflict of Interest Act, where, as you say, a normal member of Parliament would not be a reporting officer. That's where the confusion comes, because then in the Lobbying Act, members of Parliament, whether they are ministers or MPs, are designated public office holders.
In terms of the issue of gifts, I don't look at the gifts in terms of what the public office holder is receiving. My responsibility and mandate is to look at what's happening vis-à-vis the lobbyist. Is the lobbyist's giving a gift to the public office-holder creating an apparent or real conflict of interest?