The first thing to note is that gifts have nothing to do, as such, with the concept of conflict of interest, it's only in parallel they do. The rule with gifts is if something's given to you that could reasonably be seen to have been given to influence you. And that's similar to a conflict of interest, but it's not..... It confuses the situation to talk about a gift putting you into a conflict.
There is a test that can be applied, it seems to me. If somebody gives somebody a gift worth $150 or something, and lobbying them to make a decision in favour of some contract that the government's going to give, it seems to me that's not appropriate. It's very clear to me that's not appropriate.
I think, yes, somebody—I happen to be the person right now—has to make a decision on those cases. Would it be better to have no rules?