I'd like to deal with the first point about competitors. They clearly are competitors in trying to attract eyeballs. And also, since the CBC lives off advertising for a large part of its money, they compete for advertisers. When we had the value for signal hearings, it was a question as you know of the whether there should be fee for over-the-air signals that are being retransmitted by cable television. Right now they retransmit those signals but they don't pay for the content; they pay for the content of specialty channels. We said that was really for the marketplace and that they should be able to negotiate it. The broadcaster should be able to withhold the signal, or the cable company could refuse to carry it, and let them work it out. That's what we suggested. This has been challenged and is before the courts right now.
We did not apply that to the CBC because the CBC is a public broadcaster; it's supposed to fulfill a public mandate. Therefore, withdrawing it from the public seems to be counter to the mandate. We also didn't think the CBC would have much negotiating power in this thing. We felt that the CBC was, after all, a crown corporation mandated by Parliament for a specific purpose. If it needs funding, that funding should come from Parliament; it should not come through some sort of negotiating rights that we establish.