I have heard comments along those lines too.
First of all, I have to tell you that, as Information Commissioner, I am fundamentally opposed to the exclusions in the Access to Information Act. I have gone through that experience with cabinet confidentiality, for example, which is excluded. Despite the fact that I could not see the documents, some inquiries have found that the exclusion of cabinet confidentiality was well founded.
In my experience with CBC from 2007, the exclusion has been applied—