Pat Martin at the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics Committee

Thank you, Dr. Sproule.

I thought I'd go a little longer because it was the first we heard of that very interesting subject, but Chad, our clerk, just reminds me that he keeps his card in a kryptonite sleeve or something so nobody can access it.

Next for the Conservatives is Tilly O'Neill Gordon.

You have five minutes, please, Tilly.