Evidence of meeting #2 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was independent.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dara Lithwick  Committee Researcher
Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau  Analyst, Library of Parliament
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Chad Mariage

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Could you repeat the quote, because I didn't get it.

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I'd be happy to repeat it, yes.

Essentially, under the rubric of “conservatism”:

• belief in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society

• dislike of change or new ideas....

in a political setting.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Just one more point of clarification.

I know the member ran for the Marxist–Leninist Party. I wonder if he has a definition of that as well which he might be able to read out.

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I actually didn't. You've got the wrong party, but—

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Was it the Communist Party? I'm not sure which it was, but I wonder if he has that definition handy as well.

An hon. member

Bolsheviks.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Is that what it was? Oh, okay.

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Mr. Calandra, you don't have a point of order.

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

If I may continue, there's—

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Sorry, Mr. Angus's point has got me—

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Yes, I know. Well, we're setting the bar kind of—

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

Red-baiting went out of style with McCarthyism, by the way.

It only points to the fact that what you are is not a conservative party, you're an authoritarian party. That was my point, and thank you for making that so obvious.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

A point of order.

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

By the way, I'm not in front of the committee—

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Order.

Excuse me, Mr. Ravignat, we have a—

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

—being called out on a witch hunt.

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Excuse me, Mr. Ravignat—

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I'm speaking as a member of Parliament.

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Order. We have a point of order.

Mr. Calandra.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Mr. Chair, I respect your judgment. Certainly the NDP opposition—I don't want to say the Liberal opposition because they're not—have become very angry, and the language they're using is, I think, very offensive—

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

That's not a point of order. That's just a silly intervention.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

—to committee. I wonder if you would just watch the inappropriate language that they're using—

Mathieu Ravignat NDP Pontiac, QC

I had the floor. Could—

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

It's not a point of order.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

—so that Canadians don't have to be subjected to such inappropriate language, because, as they say, they are watching at home.