Evidence of meeting #131 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was proud.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ryan O'Connor  Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

The Ontario Proud Twitter account, which says it has 155,000 email supporters, is incorrect. Is that what you're saying today?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

No, I said it's approximately 100,000, so there may be more than that now. Whatever's on the Twitter account currently, in the biography, is accurate.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Right, okay.

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

There are approximately 7,000 or 8,000 followers on Instagram, and approximately 425,000 Facebook followers as well.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Are we talking about personal information held on, say, about 600,000 Canadians, then?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

To the extent that someone “liking” a page constitutes holding their personal information, you could make that argument.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Well, okay, let's talk about that, then.

What information do you have about the followers on your page?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

The name of the follower. If someone on Instagram, for example, follows Ontario Proud, we have their name or their handle.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Have you used targeted advertising on Facebook previously?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

Yes, we have.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Have you ever used Lookalike Audiences?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

I am not familiar with that terminology.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Wait, you're a director of the self-proclaimed largest political Facebook platform in Canada and you don't know what a lookalike audience is?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

You can characterize a lookalike audience; I don't know what you're describing as a lookalike audience.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

It's a specific thing that Facebook allows for on its platform for advertising.

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Has Ontario Proud ever used Lookalike Audiences for advertising?

11:10 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

For the benefit of the committee, can you define what you're describing by that? That would be appreciated.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

For the benefit of the committee, it's a term described by Facebook.

11:15 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Okay. Ontario Proud is able to upload a specific list of people to advertise to, based on Facebook profiles.

11:15 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

If you're asking about micro-targeting, yes, we've engaged in micro-targeting.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Okay. Once it's uploaded, it can target those people directly. Then the Lookalike Audiences that Facebook provides allows you to target people who look like those one thousand people whose profiles you've uploaded. Does Ontario Proud use Lookalike Audiences targeting?

11:15 a.m.

Lawyer and Director, Ontario Proud

Ryan O'Connor

I can't speak specifically to that.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Maybe you shouldn't be here today on behalf of Ontario Proud if you don't know what a lookalike audience is and you don't know if Ontario Proud has ever used Lookalike Audiences.

Who is Olivia?