Evidence of meeting #137 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rfp.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Meg Davis  Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto
Kristina Verner  Vice-President, Innovation, Sustainability and Prosperity, Waterfront Toronto
André Leduc  Vice-President, Government Relations and Policy, Information Technology Association of Canada
Michael Fekete  Partner, Technology, National Innovation Leader, Osler, Hoskin & Harcourt LLP, Information Technology Association of Canada

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

The structure of the board is four federal appointees, four provincial appointees, four city appointees and a provincially appointed chair.

4:15 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

That's correct.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

The province holds effectively the most seats, but no one level of government holds a majority of seats.

4:15 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

No one level of government holds a majority of seats.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

In terms of the waterfront properties, how much land does Waterfront Toronto actually own and have title to?

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

We own just under 12 acres.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

That is about 1% of the entire parcel.

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

That's correct.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

The city-owned land is still governed by city law, city requirements and city approval processes.

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

Absolutely.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

Sidewalk Labs and Waterfront Toronto can't, for example, assign tax dollars to a private corporation without the city's consent.

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

That's correct, nor can we sell city land without the city's permission.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

Could you zone or approve any particular project without city approval?

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

No. We don't have zoning authority.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

All zoning authority is governed by the provincial Planning Act.

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

That's correct.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

That means any proposal you receive, even if you approve it, still requires city and provincial government approval.

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

I would say probably some federal government approval on certain aspects as well.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

That's when it's federally owned land.

4:20 p.m.

Chief Development Officer, Waterfront Toronto

Meg Davis

That's on federally owned land, or if something is being requested that affects a federal piece of legislation.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

Is there any provision in your corporate construction or corporate documents that allows you to override or be exempt from City of Toronto regulations around privacy and data, provincial privacy laws or any federal laws that are put in place?

Is there anything that exempts Waterfront Toronto from the legal regime that governs data in this country?

4:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Innovation, Sustainability and Prosperity, Waterfront Toronto

Kristina Verner

Absolutely not.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

Are you allowed to write corporate contracts that exempt you or grandfather your exemption from any changes that occur in any laws?

4:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Innovation, Sustainability and Prosperity, Waterfront Toronto

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

Would you agree that if there are Canadian laws put in place to govern how data is collected, whether collected through open or regulated processes or shared through open or regulated processes or stored through any regulated processes, you will have to comply with all federal, provincial and city laws, and you have no ability to operate outside those rules?