There seem to be two parts to the question.
One is commercially sensitive information, which has its own exemption under the act. That gets applied, and should be applied in the normal way, hopefully by the commissioner with order-making power.
In terms of expanding the scope, and Mr. Conacher talked about that earlier, we in our larger submissions talked about extending this to private organizations that receive or carry out a governmental function and receive large amounts of government funding.
In terms of examples, in British Columbia there was considerable outsourcing done, which we take no position on in terms of policy. In 2004 we asked for copies of the contracts, and one of them was with IBM, for the maintenance and the running of the government computer system. The government fought us for eight years. After five years we started having birthday parties for the freedom of information request. They still fought us. They took us to court after we won at the commissioner...and they lost every time. Eventually they had to fold.
It does give you an indication of how sometimes these things can be fought.
Mr. Conacher, we agree that there should be a broader criteria, that it shouldn't be up to the minister to put something in a schedule rather than having it, by definition, included.