Thank you, gentlemen.
You're raising I think some very disturbing, broad questions that are so much beyond the scope of our committee and what we do as politicians. My day job is to get Mrs. O'Grady's hydro turned back on—her electricity. That's what keeps me elected.
However, when we're talking AI with you, we're talking about the potential of mass dislocation of employment. What would that mean for society? We have not even had conversations around this. There's the human rights impact, particularly exporting AI to authoritarian regimes and what that would mean.
For me, trying to understand it, there are the rights of citizens and personal autonomy. The argument we were sold—and I was a digital idealist at one point—was that we'd have self-regulation on the Internet and that would give consumers choice; people would make their decisions and they'd click the apps that they like.
When we're dealing with AI, you have no ability as a citizen to challenge a decision that's been made, because it's been made by the algorithm. Whether or not we need to look at having regulation in place to protect the rights of citizens....
Mr. Wagner, you wrote an article, “Ethics as an Escape from Regulation: From ethics-washing to ethics-shopping?”
How do you see this issue?