I am familiar with the Newfoundland regime that is now in place. It hasn't been there that long. I don't want to be disparaging of Newfoundland and Labrador, in the context of its being a much smaller community, if I could put it that way, in terms of volume.
What I recommended for administrative matters only at the time was to try to introduce the order-making power. Before an order is issued, there are going to be all of the same types of conversations between ATIP officers and the investigations, if a complaint has come in. Then there may even be a level of mediation before you take it up a notch to adjudication, to order-making.
If you take Alberta as an example, I think they have had some 600 orders in their 13- or 14-year period when order-making powers were granted to the commissioner. That is about 30-odd a year. These become a body of reference for future requests. Every time an order is made, you are probably reducing further complaints, and certainly investigations, by just point outing that the order stands and is now part of the jurisprudence.
That was the rationale and is still the rationale I see. It is a progressive, if you like, process to finally, at one point, get to an order made.