That's such an important distinction, because I don't think there is a single one of us in this room who is against the digital per se. This is not about being anti-technology. It's about technology being hijacked by a rogue economic logic that has turned it to its own purposes.
We talked about this a little last night, the idea that conflating the digital with surveillance capitalism is a dangerous category error. What we need is to be able to free the potential of the digital to get back to those values of democratization of knowledge and individual emancipation and empowerment that it was meant to serve and that it still can serve.