Yes. There is always a misunderstanding when we say “an exclusion” or “an exemption”. When you have an exclusion, what happens is that I cannot see the records. That is the consequence, so there is no independent oversight when the government says something is a cabinet confidence.
In a mandatory exemption, what you have is that, if it fits the definition of “cabinet confidence”, then it is exempted, so the review is limited to whether or not the documents—because we would be able to see the documents—fit within the definition. What I am suggesting is that the definition, as it exists, is too broad. It needs to be narrowed. I am recommending a mandatory exemption.
What would apply—and that is a policy decision—is whether or not the public interest override would apply in that circumstance. I think that is something for the committee to consider.