I guess maybe I'll just use that time to make a comment that I do think it's important, especially in light of all the contracting out of government work that's going on, that there be a way to get access to the information, at least to be able to make a value-for-money assessment.
That's one of the advantages we have when things are done in-house. We can evaluate how much is spent on it and get a sense of what Canadians are actually getting for the money spent. Then, as we hire other organizations to do that work and they say that we can't access information about how that work is getting done and what it costs, there's a serious cost to Canadians in terms of being able to evaluate the quality of that work. Of course there are other costs, because you end up losing the in-house capacity, and people who actually know what's involved in doing the job can then make reasonable assessments for government about whether the price they're paying for that work makes sense, whether what they're being told needs to be done is actually something that needs to be done, or whether that contract is being padded.
It seems to me that having access to information while protecting legitimate commercial interests—but I think that's probably a lot narrower in scope than it's been traditionally defined—is important so that this House and Canadians themselves can do the work of evaluating the value for money they're getting. It's certainly something I would like to see addressed in our study.