I would add to that. I think section 8 jurisprudence is not about preventing state access to information; it's all about ensuring that when the state gets access to information for law enforcement or national security purposes, it's within a very protective set of accountability mechanisms. The devil is in the details about what those are.
I would also add that there is some support in the jurisprudence, although it's very undeveloped, for protecting privacy under section 7 as well, and then it's balanced against the principles of fundamental justice. There is a lot of balancing that goes on in the charter. That's why the questions about overbreadth, safeguards, protections, and thresholds all become really important in striking that balance fairly, but everyone agrees that of course national security sometimes means that you get access to it—absolutely.