On the reciprocal nature, with regard to Canada being a net importer of information, we're dealing with, for starters, four other countries giving us information and our putting out just this one country's worth of information. Just by the very arrangement of the Five Eyes alone, we will be importing more data than we're exporting.
In terms of the reciprocal nature, there are the realistic expectations of what we can get and then there are the reasonable expectations of what we should actually be expecting and demanding. They're not always easy or convenient conversations to have, but just because we're able to get an incredible volume of information from the NSA, from the U.S., doesn't mean that we should be returning in kind just because that's the expectation that has been set for us.
I think there's a really principled stand that we keep hearing our community saying is really of concern.